huggybear wrote:I guess my only problem is procuring organic cereal, corn, legumes etc. as this is either not grown here or in the hands of big companies.
nadir wrote:MrJames wrote:Somehow, I seriously doubt corrupt justice systems, companies affording enough lobbyists and lawyers to circumvent anything, under the table political deals, war profiteering, and selling arms to the "enemy" was in the minds of Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, and all them other folks that founded my country...
How did things ever get this far from what was intended?
I did never, and never will, understand how one can speak of a country as _my_ country.
It is the country i was born, by accident (I could also have been born in Norway or Poland or Hungary) It is for sure _not_ my country (speaking of "my town" would make a bit more sense to me. I know it, i know the people, i know the way they talk, they make fun, etc.. I can understand a Turk from Cologne better than a German from Munich).
nadir wrote:I did never, and never will, understand how one can speak of a country as _my_ country.
huggybear wrote:I completely agree, and it's also very tiring to live in a political organisation (country, NATO pact, whatever) that abuses the peoples' irrational 'love' for said country in order to manipulate them into going to war for... well, making politicians richer and getting precious resources. Rather sad actually.
nadir wrote:Randicus wrote: A system of private ownership, where people are free to earn a living by selling the products of their own labour.
I could have sworn the main ideas was a system where one can let others work and sell the products they have produced. I could swear that that was and is reality too (while what you say is the propaganda). HIstory and facts will rather show that my idea is right than yours.
The word itself -> "capitalism" tells it to us. You make money with money, not with work (and for sure not by working yourself). Stock exchange is the most decadent form of that idea (it has got nothing to do with products at all. Boys playing with boys, similar to a casino).
nadir wrote:Does this make it my country? Can i be proud of it? If i can be proud of it, why?
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