insights get wheezy distro on iMac G4?[generally solved]

[debil]

you can use "pastebinit"

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# apt-get install pastebinit
# exit
$ pastebinit name_of_file

Didn't know about this. Handy. Thanks.

[nadir]

you can use "pastebinit"

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# apt-get install pastebinit
# exit
$ pastebinit name_of_file

Didn't know about this. Handy. Thanks.

Oh.

In that case, here is another goodie (stopped working for me, and i had no interest to look any further):
https://github.com/defunkt/gist

And slapping the mac3-whatever on the right side helped (first time i was to shy, second time i gave him what he asked for And voila: repaired).

[debil]

In that case, here is another goodie (stopped working for me, and i had no interest to look any further):
https://github.com/defunkt/gist

I'll check it out. I don't use GitHub regularly but this looks useful anyway.

[este_el_paz]

@nadir, but to all the latest posts,

Many thanks to each of you, I'll have a lot to read through to try to get a handle on all of it and try a few things. As far as nadir's question as to which came first--X gone or ethernet??? . . . the timeline is already a blur, but with Wheezy it was the closest to getting a running GUI in quite awhile, but after a first few minutes to post a message on the MintPPC forum . . . the desktop began to not function; ethernet was working to install and then post, then I tried to "wget" the "imac8.txt" xorg.conf file and on reboot the GUI was gone, but I could log into TTY . . . I tried the "wget" again and it worked to download and "mv" it to /etc/X11?? . . . but that didn't get the GUI back . . . then yesterday is where the ethernet was not working. This progressive deterioration is the same scenario that happened with the MintPPC11 installations . . . eventually it seems to melt into a kernel panic system . . . . On the iBook, I have Wheezy based system running w/out issue except Abiword seems to have broken (no big deal), and now I'm doing update/upgrade 1x a month; and on MBPro I've got LMDE going . . . also seemingly going well in the GUI realm . . . which is my realm as much as any. I'll post back when I've read, comprehended the instructions and then tried something . . . with "the latest news of fresh disaster" . . . in all probability--it's all good. : - 0

e.e.p.

[lester]]

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Please don't suggest to people to copy random stuff into /home ! This directory should only contain the users' home directories!
If you don't know his username, .

Sorry about ruffling the feathers.
And I thought I would take heat for handholding above and beyond, which may have already happened without me knowing it.
Andway, I had three goals in mind.
One - confirm sudo works (which wouldn't be apparent until lesson two)
Two confirm if the copy and list commands succeeded or failed
Three get username to aid in further handholding. ( copy/move files to home/<user> directory

Plan: If any of my three initiatives succeeded I was going to use the next lesson to delete the files copied to /home.
possibly getting a chance to introduce the SU command which is default and still preferred over sudo in Debian.
If all failed no harm done anyways - unless they actually succeeded and were reported as failing incorrectly.

[lester]]

Gents: thanks again for the help on the code and clarifications on ~ or $HOME . . . . But, even if I run that command to copy the logs to the home folder I would still need a GUI to get them uploaded, right? And, then, as far as removing any xorg.conf, I would need a GUI or I would use what?? it's not "mv" in that case right? The best news would be to hear that the latest PPC netinstall disc would work out of the box, but until then I'd have to play around with either removing the xorg.conf or somehow figuring out how the ethernet works and then doesn't work, and fix that problem ..

Yes even if you got X working it appears you would also have to be instructed on how to fix the networking.

My long term goal is to correct many of your deeply ingrained misconceptions about how to setup Debian.
please don't be offended, I'm doing my best to get you on-track and to help you forget about things that are holding you back from a working Debian box.

[lester]]

So if the commands I gave you worked please let us know
So someone can explain to you how to remove those files in your home directory.
ls /home
sudo rm /home/Xorg.0.log
sudo rm /home/xorg.confls
ls /home
and post your username as well unless you want to learn for one of the other esteemed forum members.
I promise I wouldn't be offended if your learning style matches one of the other members teaching style more closely..

[este_el_paz]

So if the commands I gave you worked please let us know
So someone can explain to you how to remove those files in your home directory.
ls /home
sudo rm /home/Xorg.0.log
sudo rm /home/xorg.confls
ls /home
and post your username as well unless you want to learn for one of the other esteemed forum members.
I promise I wouldn't be offended if your learning style matches one of the other members teaching style more closely..

@lester: Sorry if you are taking heat for giving too much help . . . part of the issue is that I have a life that involves a great deal of reading and it doesn't leave much time for me to become fluent in CLI or deal with the amount of learning that would be passable in Linux . . . . The plan is a long range goal of learning about how to run a Linux, most likely Debian, show over the long haul. But, in terms of your request to let you know what works, it's going to be a few days or even the weekend before I have the time to play with this--the computer is at home, I'm at work struggling to make a living. This problem has been going since December in terms of trying to get a working system in the imac; I'd like to get it done but its been a huge sucking sound in terms of time. I'm sure there is an element of operator error in what's going on, but I keep posting that I have gotten two different versions of Debian going in my two other computers as an example that I can figure things out and get it done, etc. However, other people have had similar issues with the G4 iMac install, there have also been a series of problems with the mini.iso's that seemed to be happening consistently in January, so there has been a vast conspiracy arrayed against me in this endeavor to get Debian or a Wheezy based distro going in the iMac--huge conspiracy. With all of your suggestions and then the latest from nadir there is a lot to read, comprehend, and then try out . . . hints and finger pointing to tips that would help are highly appreciated . . . . Just, I'm not a high school kid who has plenty of time to fiddle around with my computer . . . so it's going to take some time to try out all of this stuff. I'm interested in learning how to get Debian/Linux going on the the iMac, just I don't have the time to be with the computer all the time to run commands and test stuff out. I'm considering that this last install is expendable, so I will be willing to try some stuff out, we'll have to see what shows up, and I'll post back. Thanks for the hand holding . . . . : - ))

e.e.p.

[lester]]

So if the commands I gave you worked please let us know
So someone can explain to you how to remove those files in your home directory.
ls /home
sudo rm /home/Xorg.0.log
sudo rm /home/xorg.confls
ls /home
and post your username as well unless you want to learn for one of the other esteemed forum members.
I promise I wouldn't be offended if your learning style matches one of the other members teaching style more closely..

@lester: Sorry if you are taking heat for giving too much help . . . part of the issue is that I have a life that involves a great deal of reading and it doesn't leave much time for me to become fluent in CLI or deal with the amount of learning that would be passable in Linux . . . . The plan is a long range goal of learning about how to run a Linux, most likely Debian, show over the long haul. But, in terms of your request to let you know what works, it's going to be a few days or even the weekend before I have the time to play with this--the computer is at home, I'm at work struggling to make a living. This problem has been going since December in terms of trying to get a working system in the imac; I'd like to get it done but its been a huge sucking sound in terms of time. I'm sure there is an element of operator error in what's going on, but I keep posting that I have gotten two different versions of Debian going in my two other computers as an example that I can figure things out and get it done, etc. However, other people have had similar issues with the G4 iMac install, there have also been a series of problems with the mini.iso's that seemed to be happening consistently in January, so there has been a vast conspiracy arrayed against me in this endeavor to get Debian or a Wheezy based distro going in the iMac--huge conspiracy. With all of your suggestions and then the latest from nadir there is a lot to read, comprehend, and then try out . . . hints and finger pointing to tips that would help are highly appreciated . . . . Just, I'm not a high school kid who has plenty of time to fiddle around with my computer . . . so it's going to take some time to try out all of this stuff. I'm interested in learning how to get Debian/Linux going on the the iMac, just I don't have the time to be with the computer all the time to run commands and test stuff out. I'm considering that this last install is expendable, so I will be willing to try some stuff out, we'll have to see what shows up, and I'll post back. Thanks for the hand holding . . . . : - ))

e.e.p.

I completely understand about having a life. And fixing your own OS can really make a dent in life as we know it.
I hope you don't mind if I remove a few of my posts above, since having stay files in there that are not /home/<user> directories, really is bad practice fundamentally.
In this post
I read:
" and I found some commands from a post in Ubuntu that I tried to run to make .tar files . . . but Terminal didn't recognize the attempt to "cat/var/log . . ." so I'm assuming it's not the same commands in Debian?"
I'm not going to try to correct that for you.
Huggy you have any suggestions?

[este_el_paz]

I hope you don't mind if I remove a few of my posts above, since having stay files in there that are not /home/<user> directories, really is bad practice fundamentally.
In this post
I read:
" and I found some commands from a post in Ubuntu that I tried to run to make .tar files . . . but Terminal didn't recognize the attempt to "cat/var/log . . ." so I'm assuming it's not the same commands in Debian?"
I'm not going to try to correct that for you.
Huggy you have any suggestions?

@lester]: thanks for the understanding . . . I'm jammed. In terms of deleting posts, if you think it will only be more confusing or adding complication, then sure, clean it up. It does have to be simple or have a simple solution for me to both understand and do. For instance in LMDE, the installer was declaring itself to be "successful" but it wasn't booting--after a month or two somebody posted that in Mac you had to create a separate boot partition to install Yaboot into . . . . Once that solution was stated--a simple solution--I added the boot partition manually . . . and it was done. In the MintPPC installer the installer can make it or we can, once it's known usually the answers appear obvious--before it all looks very muddy. On the .tar files thing, sure, any clarification that might help . . . cool . . . I'll have to read through all of the posts here a few times, try some stuff and then I'll post back with what I can.

e.e.p.