The semantic desktop/web

[lester]]

to add ... read that article in some detail now, I remember following Ana's blog several years ago when KDE4 was in early stages. She is great, love the open-minded attitude. I hope people like her keep things on the right track.

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[debil]

The KDE4 activities thing ... man, I was playing with that, trying to find a rational explanation of what it would do for me, and I don't get that one at all. Of course I've never used multiple virtual desktops either (if it ain't pretty much in my face, I forget it's there.) But it sure seems like they've gone to a lot of trouble to develop something that hardly anybody seems to understand (as far as I can tell) and so I assume isn't being used much.

I'm with you here. I really tried to understand Activities. I read a few articles about it and kind of figured out the point in them. In theory it makes sense but I didn't find the sense in practice. I know some people like them but is it worth the effort (development-wise)? Don't know, KDE project certainly thinks so.

Maybe I shouldn't be bitching; it was no big deal after all to disable this stuff. And it's a pretty decent desktop, KDE4, with some features I find very handy. It just worries me, these kinds of trends.

Yup, KDE wasn't that bad after all, obviously after disabling akonadi/nepomuk/strigi/virtuoso/soprano/younameit first. But yes, luckily we have choices. Still.

@nadir: Thanks for the read.

[nadir]

The last time i looked into kde it was not bad (i would use it, i guess).
The problem is that i don't understand all the stuff i am getting offered.
I use a desktop like this: i got desktops, and on them i got apps open. I got a panel, which gives me some notes via systray. I open apps via Alt+F2 or via app-menu Alt+F1. For lots of things, like closing apps or resizing, i use the mouse. For tilda i use F1.
I think that is all i want. Perhaps i want more, but don't know it yet (but cause i am not able to understand it, i guess i won't know it in the future neither).
I boot more and more into CLI and don't open the gui at all (not that it would be cool, but for doing some programing training i really don't need a GUI). For web-browsing and email i do need a gui (lynx works ok when searching for some info, but it is not really fun).

Still it's a bit scary not to understand it, even _while_ people explain it.
semantic.
well.
No idea.

Someone spoke about some features of kde at the freedombox mailing list.
I don't recall anyone mentioning security problems (and they usually are rather "paranoid" ).
They refered to an article at lwm, but i can't find it anymore (i searched for kde and nepomuk).

[MrJames]

Like I said, I just find this infatuation to index, cross-link, associate, and share people's private data a bit creepy. This whole socializing trend along with this semantic stuff and the resulting increase in carelessness with what people throw out there about themselves really does disturb me. Might as well walk around naked carrying a sign with my banking info, address, and list of the people I know for the world to see (and abuse).

Anybody see the Evangelion anime series?

[Beewolf]

Mmmmm.... Tang.....

[huggybear]

By the Angels, you have the N.E.R.V. to mention that series!

[huggybear]

James, wait! Are you saying that Akonadi turned Shinji's mum into an artificial intelligence? *SHUDDER!

[cynwulf]

Like I said, I just find this infatuation to index, cross-link, associate, and share people's private data a bit creepy.

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This whole socializing trend along with this semantic stuff and the resulting increase in carelessness with what people throw out there about themselves really does disturb me. Might as well walk around naked carrying a sign with my banking info, address, and list of the people I know for the world to see (and abuse).

Unfortunately because "everyone's doing it!", it's hard to convince the average person of just how foolhardy it is.

[lester]]

see the Evangelion anime series?

22 minute introduction for me. ( flash)
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v3607742zj2XPgCW

[MrJames]

The Evangelion reference was about the idea that reducing every person on the planet into a single consciousness where there is no you and me but the collective "one". This fits with my statement of how nowadays there is no individualism or thinking for one's self but rather trends that masses follow. Kinda reminds me of Jonestown. Say man, pass that kool-aid over here, would ya?